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The Watchtower and the Masons
by ozziepost inthe latest edition of the free in christ ministries journal contains a very interesting article entitled the watchtower and masons.. drawing upon material from the book the watchtower & the masons by fritz springmeier, it gives the following parallels between the things that c t russell believed and those taught by the masons:.
* both believe jehovah is the most important word being the basis of their dogma, and the name of their god.
* both believe god yielded power to a lesser god.
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Where Are You From?
by finallysomepride inalot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.
if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.
for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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I'm not for telling people THEY CAN'T have their toxins if THEY want them JeffT....
If people want it...go for your life! Just don't inflict it on people who don't.
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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Pesonally I like the idea of fluoridated salt. That way, if you want it in your diet...buy the salt and eat it till your hearts content.
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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vitamin D in their milk isn't toxic
No it isn't in the doses they use... but vitamin D in high doses is also toxic. So, if milk is their only diet I suppose it can be regulated by the amount they drink. There is no way to monitor or control how much fluoride we get if it is in our water.
So, I go back to my original point of being able to evaluate how much of a substance we are ingesting. And this cannot be done if it added to our water because it does not take into account how much you drink or ingest from any other source, how much is absorbed in our cooking, how much we absorb through our skin, how much is taken up by vegetables if we grow our own and water our garden with fluoridated water, how much we are getting through toothpaste or mouthwashes etc etc.
Even vitamin D supplements SHOULD be given by a health professional and the results monitored. The result of our fluroide intake is NOT monitored by anyone...and it certainly doesn't take into account that you MAY be on other medications that may not interact well with too much fluoride consumpsion.
What is vitamin D toxicity, and should I worry about it since I take supplements?
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from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis D, is a rare but potentially serious condition that occurs when you have excessive amounts of vitamin D in your body.
Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by megadoses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. That's because your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced by sun exposure, and even fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.
The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause symptoms such as poor appetite, nausea and vomiting. Weakness, frequent urination and kidney problems also may occur. Treatment includes the stopping of excessive vitamin D intake. Your doctor may also prescribe intravenous fluids and medications, such as corticosteroids or bisphosphonates.
Taking 50,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity. This level is many times higher than the recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for most adults of 600 IU of vitamin D a day. Doses higher than the RDA are sometimes used to treat medical problems such as vitamin D deficiency, but these are given only under the care of a doctor and only for a short time.
Although vitamin D toxicity is uncommon even among people who take supplements, you may be at greater risk if you have health problems, such as liver or kidney conditions, or if you take thiazide-type diuretics. As always, talk to your doctor before taking vitamin and mineral supplements.
I wonder... ...what is the RDA (recommended daily allowance) for fluoride? And how do you monitor this?
And what about people that may have liver or kidney problems? How do they control their fluoride intake?
Medical practisioners ALWAYS want to know if you are taking ANY vitamin or mineral supplements. Do they take fluoride into consideration when they prescribe you a drug?
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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And my guess (yes it is a guess, based on what happened here in Hamilton). The ONLY reason they have to wait until 2014 to stop fluoridation is because there is NO SAFE WAY to dispose of the fluoride they already have in Israel.
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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Israeli Supreme Court Backs Work of Irish Scientist on Fluoride
Fluoridation of the water supply in Israel is to end by 2014, following a landmark decision by the country's highest judicial authority
The Hot Press Newsdesk, 06 Aug 2013
In a landmark decision, the Supreme Court in Israel has ruled that all public water fluoridation in the state of Israel must cease by 2014.
The court's ruling is remarkable in that it goes even further than – and thus overturns – the decision taken earlier this year by Isreal's Minister for Health, Yael German, who had legislated for an end to mandatory fluoridation, leaving the option open to local councils to fluoridate water supplies at their own discretion. Now, however, by order of the Supreme Court, fluoridation in Israel is definitively at an end. This is regarded as a crucial victory by anti-fluoridation campaigners, especially given the close diplomatic and economic links between Israel and the US – the original home of the policy of fluoridation.
The decision is a further vindication of the work of Irish scientist Declan Waugh, who has been directly involved in the campaign to end fluoridation in Israel.
Waugh had alerted the Israeli Minister for Health to the risks associated with fluoride, outlining how within less than a decade of commencement of water fluoridation, inflammatory respiratory diseases such as asthma had increased by 100% in young adults in Israel. Since commencement of water fluoridation in Ireland in the late 1960s, the prevalence of asthma has increased by 500% – it now affects approximately half a million people and one in five children 12 years of age in this country. Ireland now has one of the highest prevalences of asthma in the world, levels that are only to be found in fluoridated countries.
“Scientific studies have clearly demonstrated that Fluoride is a pro-inflammatory agent that can contribute to all inflammatory diseases, not just asthma,” Waugh told Hot Press.
The decision will put further pressure on the Irish government to finally properly address the serious health issues surrounding the mandatory fluoridation of the water supply. Ireland is the only country in Europe which enforces a policy of mandatory fluoridation of the national water supply.
Throughout 2013, Hot Press has been carrying a series of investigative articles into the practice, written by Adrienne Murphy, and in our current issue we have posed 27 Questions of the Food Safety Authority of Ireland on the issue. In a related article in the current issue, Hot Press has also highlighted huge – and on the face of it inexplicable – differences between the data on fluoride in tea (among other foodstuffs) provided by the FSAI and that which is available in numerous international studies.
As part of the same investigation, a group of British scientists who carried out independent tests on tea and found the fluoride content to be higher than the FSAI's figure by a multiple of ten, have called on the Irish government to carry out an urgent review of its policy of mandatory fluoridation.
Over the past year, Declan Waugh has also assisted communities in New Zealand, Australia, Canada and in parts of the USA in ending decades of fluoridation, as well as – in particular cases – preventing fluoridation programmes from commencing.
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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You are most welcome Mamochan...
This is how I chose to live my life these days. Question EVERYTHING...especially previously held beliefs and ideas. They may still stack up...but they may not. I'm more than happy to be wrong because hopefully, I will eventually find out what is right.
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Water Fluoridation
by still thinking inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.
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I rest my case...jgnat
Really? I must have missed it.
jgnat...you haven't even remotely made a case. I'm not sure why you believe you have. All you have done is put up a link to what some people at the CDC say...and copy pasted a list of those people. And told us that beurocrats are inherantly stupid.
Perhaps you would like to make a case. Since you seem to support the claims of the CDC. Based on what data? Do you know what the CDC has to say about evidence of long-term neurological effects? Do they have an opinion on the latest findings or do they simply ignore it? Are they aware of the comparitive results showing that areas that are fluoridated show no difference to unfluoridated areas? What is their explanation for this? And HOW can they, in all honestly call that " one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century." When unfluoridated countries show exactly the same results.And the CDC have NO HUMAN TRIALS to suport their claims.
I'm keen to see you attempt to make a case supporting the CDC.
